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Gay people are too responsible to be allowed to marry 
27th-Jan-2013 02:57 pm
That's the stand of the U.S. House of Representatives, according to the legal brief they provided to the Supreme Court.

Marriage should be limited to unions of a man and a woman because they alone can "produce unplanned and unintended offspring," opponents of gay marriage have told the Supreme Court...

Conservative attorneys did not argue that gays or lesbians engaged in "immoral" behavior or lifestyles. Instead they emphasized what they called the "very real threat" to society posed by opposite-sex couples when they are not bound by the strictures of marriage.

So opposite-sex couples are such a danger to society they need to be bribed or coerced into marriage, whereas same-sex couples don't? This is the most bizarre twist on the "But think of the children!" theme yet. (As opposed to the "Biological families are the only real families!" argument, which is merely disgusting.)

I get that they're looking at this from the point of view of public policy and encouraging the kind of behavior that benefits society. But setting aside that they're ignoring all the benefits of marriage that don't have anything to do with raising children, I'm having a hard time understanding why a same-sex couple who adopts one of those unplanned kids isn't entitled to the same rights as the feckless opposite-sex couple who made the baby in the first place.

If they mean that unplanned children need more of society's protection, shouldn't they be arguing that only people who forget a trip to the drugstore be allowed to marry? Or mandating shotgun weddings?
27th-Jan-2013 09:20 pm (UTC)
Um...what? I mean, really, what?

These people who insist that "it's all about the children" don't seem to recognize that marriage is a good inherent unto itself that has nothing to do with procreation. What about the infertile couples, or those who choose not to have children? What about the older couples who marry and are past child-bearing age? And wouldn't it be better if all children were wanted and planned for?

Really, this stance is so far beyond moronic, I cannot even.
27th-Jan-2013 09:37 pm (UTC)
Yep. I might as well just get divorced, because my kids are grown.
27th-Jan-2013 09:27 pm (UTC)
(See icon.)

I expect the answer is in the last two lines of your post.......

27th-Jan-2013 09:38 pm (UTC)
People have been pointing out for years that if they were consistent, they'd be trying to ban divorce. But one look at the demographics of the people complaining about equality shows they've had their share of failed marriages.
27th-Jan-2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
That's the most idiotic statement I've read in a very long time.
27th-Jan-2013 09:36 pm (UTC)
And we paid for it! This was produced by the lawyers the House hired because the Obama administration wouldn't defend Prop 8 or DOMA.
27th-Jan-2013 10:52 pm (UTC)
Hmm - so any of us who planned our offspring are bringing marriage into disrepute then? Or something.

My brain hurts and I will have to go and lie down.

Probably in the marital bed. Where I am most unlikely to accidentally produce any unplanned offspring, so deepening my felony....
27th-Jan-2013 11:19 pm (UTC)
If only I'd known, I wouldn't have waited until we were reasonably financially secure and certain we wanted kids before having mine.
28th-Jan-2013 09:54 pm (UTC)
27th-Jan-2013 11:02 pm (UTC)
My tax dollars at work.

28th-Jan-2013 01:21 am (UTC)
So... het couples need marriage because they're irresponsible breeders? (Because of course birth control is a no-no!) Any pretense of making sense has left the building.
28th-Jan-2013 04:08 am (UTC)
They couldn't have come up with a worse argument if they'd decided to deliberately sabotage their case.
28th-Jan-2013 09:55 pm (UTC)
I was about to say, I have a slight suspicion that someone may be throwing the game...
29th-Jan-2013 12:58 am (UTC)
On the other hand, you should never attribute to guile what can be explained by stupidity.
29th-Jan-2013 12:36 am (UTC)
I cannot believe the stupidity......oh wait! I just realized it's from the house of representatives.....
29th-Jan-2013 12:59 am (UTC)
They're able to rig the election process so they get control of the House, but can't figure out how to run the place once they're in charge.
30th-Jan-2013 04:06 am (UTC)
They must no longer believe they can win by appealing to the "morally upright" so this is actually a win. The idiot ship is sinking and they are rearranging deck chairs. Let them. I'm thinking I'm going to see nationally sanctioned equality marriage not only in my lifetime but, more importantly, in an older friend of mine's lifetime.
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